The Caramel Crunch (18 January 2020)

Over at Caramel (Learner at Love), CARAMEL has started a new prompt. I’d like to see her prompt do well, and I had some time today to write a post, so here we go…

The prompts are called the Caramel Crunch and so far are centered around a moral question. Her question this week is here, but for your convenience I shall repeat her question.

You are out with some good friends having drinks. One of your best friends makes a joke that seems racist. Your friend doesn’t normally seem to show any attitudes that indicate racism. Do you let it pass? Or do you speak out against the offensive joke?

That’s an easy one. You say something. You don’t need to be nasty, but it needs to be clear (a) that you don’t find their comments acceptible, and (b) why. If they’re as reasonable as CARAMEL says, maybe they’ll go away and think about why you got upset? Either way, they’ll know not to speak like that in your company again.


I’ve actually experienced this. Not exactly the same, but similar. Not about race – fortunately for a white guy in the UK, it isn’t normally an issue – but picking on physical characteristics to imply that a person isn’t as good. And not with friends. There is a comedy-news programme in the UK called Have I got News For You. And, not long before he won a General Election, Boris Johnson won an election to become the leader of the Conservative Party, and therefore Prime Minister. As part of that election process, there was a series of debates among the contenders.

At the time, I followed Have I Got News For You on Facebook. The day after one of these debates, this photograph appeared:

I took a screenshot because I wanted to include the caption. I hope you can see it okay – it reads

I can lead the UK, insists man struggling to sit on stool.

The picture is of a guy called Sajid Javid. It obviously didn’t harm his career that much, as he is now Britain’s Chancellor (Finance Minister).

I complained. The implication of the caption was that Javid was sitting on the stool wrongly (no, I never knew there was a wrong way to sit on a stool, either) and that this physical characteristic made him unfit to run the country.

I am absolutely sure that running a country requires many exceptional intellectual talents, but somehow I doubt that how we sit on a stool is one of them. The particular problem here is that there is very real discrimination against physically disabled people in the UK – that their physical disability means they lack the intellect to do a particular job. So all this post did was to reinforce a stereotype.

As you might imagine, 99.9% of the responses to this complaint were this is a comedy feed – get over it. But I could see the problem, even if 99.9% of people could not. And when something is wrong, you gotta say something, don’t you?

No, I don’t follow that feed any more. I’m sure it makes no difference whatever, but I don’t want to see that nonsense when I log on.

Author: Stroke Survivor UK

Designed and developed IT systems for banks, but had a stroke in 2016, aged 48. Returned to developing from home, and have since released a couple of apps. I split my time between this and voluntary work. I am married, with a grown-up, left-home child.

2 thoughts on “The Caramel Crunch (18 January 2020)”

  1. I really enjoyed your post.
    I must say the odd things that people poke fun are baffling.

    One of the reasons I asked this question is that I was at a dinner party a while ago, hosted by someone who I would never say was racist. Within her family there are a number of ethnic backgrounds. However, she dropped a joke at the dinner party that was kind of shocking. (I don’t know if wine caused a lapse of judgement.) Anyway, one of the guests stood up and voiced how disgusted she was and walked out.

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    1. I remember at university I had an Indian friend. I mean, this was back in the 80s so there was generally more racism about. I was shocked one day when he referred to somebody as a “filthy nigger”. I’d have thought that he of all people would have known better, just because he would’ve had it happen to him.

      I find it interesting when somebody says something nowadays which is considered to be racist – it’s genrally more subtle these days anyway. But they obviously didn’t say it out of malice but out of ignorance. Is it racism, because they should know better? There you go, there’s one right back a’cha! 🙂 But seriously it is one I disagree with some (black) friends over – because I think intent comes into it and they don’t. But, you know, they’ve lived with it for fifty-odd years so I can understand why they’re more hardline.

      I’m not sure I would have walked out, btw, not until I’d given them a chance to explain. It could be me who picked it up wrongly.

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